Hi All,
My next project involves using track for the camera. I have never shot using track, just wondering if anyone out there has?
Also wondering how it affects time in the form of setup and moving the track?
Also, what are the pitfalls, if any of using track?
My shot is in a large spacious lobby of a newly constructed hospital. I have walking and talking talent delivering lines. There are trees in the lobby area so I plan on using them as aribtrary foreground as well.
Any advice is welcome.
Thanks
My next project involves using track for the camera. I have never shot using track, just wondering if anyone out there has?
Also wondering how it affects time in the form of setup and moving the track?
Also, what are the pitfalls, if any of using track?
My shot is in a large spacious lobby of a newly constructed hospital. I have walking and talking talent delivering lines. There are trees in the lobby area so I plan on using them as aribtrary foreground as well.
Any advice is welcome.
Thanks
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Re: Using Track On A Shoot
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 10:32 AMWe've made our own from 2" PVC pipe and skate wheels for the dolly. Quick setup, runs smooth, cheap. -
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Re: Using Track On A Shoot
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 5:43 PMThe track will be provided by the production company, I am just wondering about the usage. -
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Re: Using Track On A Shoot
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 8:51 PMIf you're using standard track with something like a Chapman or Fischer dolly, it goes down farily quickly. Be sure whoever suppllies it has wedges to level it as necessary, and lubricant in case the wheels squeek on turns. One person can set it, but is better with two people.
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Re: Using Track On A Shoot
Fri, November 2, 2007 - 10:10 AMIs that a Chapman?
Fisher? -
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Re: oops
Fri, November 2, 2007 - 5:43 PMThere is (or was) such a thing as a Fisher or fischer..? I was better at using them than spelling them
Similar to chapman,but different
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Re: Using Track On A Shoot
Sun, October 28, 2007 - 9:28 PMI've also never shot using track. So I'm wondering -- why are you using a track for the shoot?
Hospital lobbies are usually pretty smooth floors -- couldn't you just put the tripod on a dolly with wheels and forget the track? -
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Re: Using Track On A Shoot
Thu, November 1, 2007 - 8:44 PMI don't mind sharing my ignorance if you don't mind sharing your expertise?
anyone?
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Re: Using Track On A Shoot
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 10:30 AMDepending on the complexity of your shot, you will need one person to push the dolly and one person to pull focus, if needed. Remember that your camera to subject ratio will be affected, so a focus pull may or may not be necessary.
The next issue is the weight of the camera and operator. You should have your dolly pusher get used to the weight. your shot might only be usable once the momentum starts, as it can be a "jolty" start stop, depending on the experience of your cam. assistant.
Finally, the tracks themselves. If you are using the dolly in or out, make sure your camera person keeps an eye out for those tracks in the shot. They could end up in the shot if they are not scrutinizing the frame line.
One last consideration is to sandbag that camera and tripod down, if you can. One false move and its curtains for that camera!
Best of luck. :-)
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Re: Using Track On A Shoot
Tue, October 30, 2007 - 4:06 PMThanks for all the feedback.
I shoot on the 12th of November.
I'll try to remember to pop back in here and let you know how it goes.
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Re: Using Track On A Shoot
Mon, November 12, 2007 - 5:28 AMI'm asuming you won't have a dedicated dolly grip. If so, then your key grip should be the one responsable for setting track and running the dolly. Just make sure they know what they are doing. You're shooting inside so leveling shouldn't be a problem. Set up should only take a few min. Let your grip do a few practice moves. Like with all things in film, communication is key. It is an art and can be dangerous, so be kind, have respect, and be patient. -
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Re: Using Track On A Shoot
Mon, December 10, 2007 - 11:08 AM"I've also never shot using track. So I'm wondering -- why are you using a track for the shoot?
Hospital lobbies are usually pretty smooth floors -- couldn't you just put the tripod on a dolly with wheels and forget the track?"
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'Usually Pretty Smooth' and dolly track are totally different ;-)
It's all about consistency. Our bodies deal with slight bumps a lot better than cameras do.
Track seriously takes 10 seconds to put down and link up(if you need to), 1 person doable, but they can 8 feet long and kind of a pain to carry multiple pieces. Then just put some wedges where you need them.
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